Speaking Out Of His A** – What Dan Forest Said About Teacher Pay Raises In Tonight’s Debate

Tonight in the only gubernatorial debate of this election year, Lt. Gov. Dan Forest made the claim about teacher pay being increased by 20%.

Listen for yourself.

Go about 32 minutes into it.

Now, if you believe that Dan Forest is correct, then please explain the following.

Imagine a room of 17 teachers. All of them have a bachelor’s degree. Each has a different number of years of experience. There is one teacher who has 15 years of experience, and for every year from 15-31 years of experience there is exactly one teacher. That makes 17 veteran teachers in the room.

Think of it as every teacher represents a different “step” in the teacher salary schedule from “15” to “31”

Below is the salary schedule for 2007-2008.

The salaries for this group would be represented by the left-hand columns.

Collectively speaking, they would as a group make $785,630. IN 2007-2008. Or collectively $78,563/month.

If all of them were nationally certified with same years of experience they would be on the right-hand side of the schedule.

Collectively speaking, they would as a group make $879,850. IN 2007-2008. Or collectively $87,985/month.

What if instead of a bachelor’s degree certification, all of those teachers had a master’s degree. They would then be on a different salary schedule in 2007-2008

If all of those teachers (still with the differences in experience) had a master’s degree, their collective salary would be $864,160 or $86,416/month. If they all had a master’s and national certification that total would be $967,860 or $96,786/month.

IN 2007-2008.

Now go to this current school year. Below is the current salary schedules for 2020-2021.

Please remember that these salary schedules have teachers between years 15-24 making the same salary. Teachers with 25+ make the same.

Again, let’s take 17 teachers representing an individual salary step between the years of 15 and 31 and run the same scenarios as was done with the 2007-2008 salary schedule.

You get this table:

Remember, that’s in actual dollars. Not adjusted for inflation.

Look at this representation of the data.

2.35% – 3.36% increases in REAL DOLLARS over 13 years.

That does not even account for longevity pay being taken away.

Imagine if this is added for those veteran teachers now.

So, does Phil Berger, Tim Moore, or Catherine Truitt want to explain this?

Because without even adjusting for inflation or rise in labor costs, it doesn’t really look like veteran teachers are being paid better now than 13 years ago.

That’s pathetic.

Oh, wait. Don’t forget that there are no longer graduate degree pay bumps. Getting paid for a master’s degree is being eliminated.

Imagine what those numbers would be.

One thought on “Speaking Out Of His A** – What Dan Forest Said About Teacher Pay Raises In Tonight’s Debate

  1. Year 30 with a Master’s degree. My salary hasn’t moved in years,not to mention longevity being taken away. They should pay us retroactively and fix the pay for veterans!


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